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Monday, February 21, 2011
Request Lines Open: 2/25/11 Post-Punk
Do you have any favorites from the post-punk era? (Think early The Cure, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Devo, Bauhaus, Public Image Ltd, Joy Division, Gang Of Four...)
Or just imagine what sort of music you might be singing if you looked like this.
Post-punk is tricksy and false. The whole point of punk was to strip music back to fundamental elements. When "the punk thing" ended, you saw two directions emerge--largely along continental lines. Guys like Greg Ginn and Ian MacKaye continued distilling musical expression almost to the point of pure, blinding energy. Our poncey friends across the pond bought themselves a whole bunch of fancy new equipment and farted onto the world more elaborate and overproduced Blue Mondays than anyone should see in a lifetime.
Fortunately, some 20 years on we have compromises and comparisons available that might make an interesting something for your show.
All this having been said, I would like to request:
BtM, first off, I've been to your home, I've seen your Frankie Goes To Hollywood poster, and I've glimpsed your collection of piano key neckties, so don't you dare try to tell me you're not a fan of synthesized British flatulence!
But seriously, you raise an interesting point. One question that comes to mind is whether your beef is with the music itself, or more with the "post-punk" label assigned to it, which I think misleadingly risks the implication that it was something approaching a 100% biological descendant of punk. Far from being the pure offspring of Mr. and Mrs. Punk, I guess I conceive of it more as the end-product of that scandalous string of affairs Mrs. Punk is rumored to have had with Messrs. Reed, Pop, Eno & Bowie — amongst others, possibly including one of the dudes from Kraftwerk.
For instance, similar to punk, a lot of the seminal post-punk bands seemed to reject 70s bloat-rock and shun commercial success — especially compared to their "new wave" contemporaries; but in contrast to punk, they were darker, more experimental, more introverted, and yes, more "artsy fartsy" (so, at least in respect to that last adjective, we are definitely in agreement ;)
I agree that Post-Punk is an unusual way to describe the genre, as it implies that it somehow takes over where punk left off. It seems an odd denial of the fact that punk kept on going on its own. I think it boils down to a critic once upon a time tossing out a term to describe a band and it stuck. (If Wikipedia is to be believed, it was Sounds magazine describing Siouxsie and The Banshees - though I'm waiting for the REAL story from Wikileaks.)
Jocko Homo - Devo I'm just sayin'
ReplyDeletePost-punk is tricksy and false. The whole point of punk was to strip music back to fundamental elements. When "the punk thing" ended, you saw two directions emerge--largely along continental lines. Guys like Greg Ginn and Ian MacKaye continued distilling musical expression almost to the point of pure, blinding energy. Our poncey friends across the pond bought themselves a whole bunch of fancy new equipment and farted onto the world more elaborate and overproduced Blue Mondays than anyone should see in a lifetime.
ReplyDeleteFortunately, some 20 years on we have compromises and comparisons available that might make an interesting something for your show.
All this having been said, I would like to request:
Wire -- 12XU
Minor Threat -- 12XU
Wire -- The 15th
Fischerspooner -- The 15th
Would this be considered post-punk?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pQdAO9UsWho#at=79
BtM, first off, I've been to your home, I've seen your Frankie Goes To Hollywood poster, and I've glimpsed your collection of piano key neckties, so don't you dare try to tell me you're not a fan of synthesized British flatulence!
ReplyDeleteBut seriously, you raise an interesting point. One question that comes to mind is whether your beef is with the music itself, or more with the "post-punk" label assigned to it, which I think misleadingly risks the implication that it was something approaching a 100% biological descendant of punk. Far from being the pure offspring of Mr. and Mrs. Punk, I guess I conceive of it more as the end-product of that scandalous string of affairs Mrs. Punk is rumored to have had with Messrs. Reed, Pop, Eno & Bowie — amongst others, possibly including one of the dudes from Kraftwerk.
For instance, similar to punk, a lot of the seminal post-punk bands seemed to reject 70s bloat-rock and shun commercial success — especially compared to their "new wave" contemporaries; but in contrast to punk, they were darker, more experimental, more introverted, and yes, more "artsy fartsy" (so, at least in respect to that last adjective, we are definitely in agreement ;)
I agree that Post-Punk is an unusual way to describe the genre, as it implies that it somehow takes over where punk left off. It seems an odd denial of the fact that punk kept on going on its own. I think it boils down to a critic once upon a time tossing out a term to describe a band and it stuck. (If Wikipedia is to be believed, it was Sounds magazine describing Siouxsie and The Banshees - though I'm waiting for the REAL story from Wikileaks.)
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